Lane Assignments
Lanes	1 & 2	3 & 4	5 & 6		7 & 8	9 & 10	11 & 12
11/21/2023	9 vs. 3	1 vs. 10	11 vs. 4		5 vs. 12	8 vs. 2	6 vs. 7
11/28/2023	7 vs. 12	5 vs. 8	9 vs. 2		10 vs. 4	11 vs. 6	1 vs. 3
				Standings
#	Builders Tee Club	W	L	Pins + HDCP	#	Builders Tee Club	W	L	Pins + HDCP
7	Team Schwenn	14	0	6205	12	Ascend Wealth Planning	7	7	6214
10	Creative Colors	12	2	6692	9	Beggar's Pizza	5	9	6260
5	Smokey's Bandits	10	4	6323	3	Bright Metals	4	10	6321
11	Oak Forest Bowl	9	5	6351	6	Mama Vesuvio	4	10	6183
2	Tri-Star	8	6	6153	1	Burr Oak Bowl	4	10	6016
4	Traitors	7	7	6301	8	Bluebird Lanes	0	14	6054
	Handicap					Mystery Pot
Game 1	Roger Stewart	235			1st Game	Wayne Hutchinson	192
	Paul Kleinpaste	224
					2nd Game	Vince Oliva	230
Game 2	Dave Jenner	262
	Roger Stewart	249				Doubles
					1st Game	Randy Samoska	447
Game 3	Bill Slusarczyk	264				Jeff Dinga
	Dave Jenner	263
					2nd Game	Dennis Samoska Sr.	523
						Jeff Dinga
	2nd Game Blind Doubles
	Dave Jenner	516			3rd Game	Dave Jenner	527
	Tom Ollenberger					Tom Ollenberger
	Jeff Dingas	504				Last Game Handicap
	Dan Woodward Jr.					Jeff Dinga	265
						Bill Slusarczyk	264
						Tom Ollenberger	264

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Well after all the counts are in

43 yes to forward tees for 65 and over

6 against forward tees for 65 and over

28 yes to extending max handicap to 45.

15 against extending max handicap.

5 didn't answer the survey questions but had different solutions to consider.

I think that getting over 50 responses was great.  We average around 85 golfers a week and the remarkable thing was that it was only the golfers that golf almost every week were the ones that responded. 

In conclusion the vast majority were not only voting yes but a resounding yes and truly appreciate the forward tees.

Verdict not in on the handicap going up.  Most golfers against it were because of three strokes on a par 3.  To be honest it is very rare that a 45 would get 3 strokes on a par 3 unless it is one of the 9 hardest holes on the golf course.  And nobody gives anyone 3 strokes on any hole unless you are a 0 handicap.  And if you are 0 handicap you would not be in the same division as the high handicappers.  But I will meet with board and see what they recommend as the highest handicap.  We have a current member that at one time had a 42 handicap when we allowed up to 45 for a period of time. 

I also believe we should have two divisions of golfers to get rid of the a and b division.  We could be more like most golf clubs and have an open division and champions division with the open division being anyone with an 18 or under handicap and the champions division to be the 19 and above division.  With the open division golfing from the middle tees and the champions from the forward tees. 

After having about 2 years into the forward tees almost everyone's handicap (which the golf gurus have decided is the best judge of ability)  has adjusted itself to the tee box they have been using.  Not sure how or why we would move tee boxes around now that we have firmly established handicaps from the tee boxes we have been using.  Ability has many ways of being judged such as how far can you drive the ball, or how is your iron play, or how is your chipping and putting. This is the main reason that I think we have been given a handicap system to judge ability for us.

The BTC handicapping program we use was developed by our late Great friend Chuck Martino. It automatically adjusts scores based on your handicap such as if you are under 10 adjusts our scores turned in so that you turn in your scorecard and it adjusts so that you can only get a double bogey, and if you are below 20 the same thing happens with only allowing a triple bogey and 36 and below allowing 4 over par scores.  It was well designed and has worked for us for over 20 some years. I feel that there is no reason to use any other system than the one we have in place now.  But that is just my opinion and not everyone's.

When I first proposed the forward tees, I wanted it to be for 60 and over but I was met with some resistance, maybe now is the time to revisit that scenario and figure out what to do with the current handicaps for that specific group. I belong to another group that when you first move up you lose 3 strokes from your handicap, and it adjusts after 5 to 10 rounds.  Seems like a fair way to go if we decide to lower the champions division to 60 and over.  Just food for thought and if you have any feelings on this please give me a call and let me know yea or nay.

One other thing to consider is the select few that turn 65 each year and move forward a tee box, what to do with them.  I have tried not to have any event early so as their handicap will adjust itself after the first 5 weeks of golf and it seemed to be working, also looking for suggestions on maybe taking 2 strokes off for 5 rounds of golf. 

One thing that you should know is that BTC does not make you move forward a tee if you so wish, a great example of that was George Les who qualified to move forward but thought his game was good enough to play at the 6000 yards we normally try to play and he proved that he could compete, get in the game of the day and win the open division club championship from the back tees.  All we insist is that you pick the tee box you want to establish your handicap and play there each week.

One last thing: I know for a fact that with(forward tees) the most enjoyable by product of this is, what most golfers have told me is, that we now don't take 6 hours to golf, and it is way more enjoyable.  Lower handicaps mean fewer high scores which translate into fewer strokes which saves waiting on each hole and make golf more fun and competitive.

Any comments or suggestions please give me a call.  Thanks to everyone that thanked me for what the golf chairman does for our league, and I now appreciate way more what the past golf chairman have done for this club.

Thanks

Larry

Your golf guy.

THANKS TO ALL THAT TOOK THE TIME TO CALL THE HOT LINE AND ANSWER MY SURVEY